Great Lakes Wire

This month, Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel and Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes are releasing a two-part podcast series on their show, Pantsuits and Lawsuits. The series reflects on the legacy and ongoing fight for marriage equality 10 years after the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark Obergefell v. Hodges decision.

In part one of the series, now available, Attorney General Nessel provides listeners with an inside look at DeBoer v. Snyder, a case she personally litigated that was later consolidated into Obergefell. She shares the legal and emotional challenges faced during the fight for marriage equality, discusses the immediate impact of the ruling, and explains what this victory meant for many families, including her own.

Part two will be released on June 19 and features April DeBoer and Jayne Rowse. The Michigan couple at the center of this historic case will share their personal story of resilience, family, and hope.

“Reflecting on the 10th anniversary of the Obergefell decision gives us an opportunity to look back at how far we’ve come in the fight for marriage equality,” Nessel said. “It was great to catch up with April and Jayne, who helped make that progress possible.”

Pantsuits and Lawsuits releases new episodes biweekly to break down complex legal topics in an engaging way that is informative and accessible to listeners. With expertise, humor, and straightforward discussions, the attorneys general explore major legal cases, analyze policy debates at state and national levels, and discuss how attorneys general influence justice. These discussions provide listeners with insights into how attorneys general serve their communities.

The latest episode is available now on major podcast platforms with a video version available on the Arizona Attorney General’s YouTube page.